From the Hart: Role call! — DL

Written by Andy Hart on July 26, 2010 – 2:59 pm -

Training camp 2010 has the makings to be one of the most competitive in recent memory in New England. Endless roster spots, roles and starting jobs will be on the line this July and August on the practice fields at Gillette Stadium. As we head toward the opening of training camp on July 29, PFW will take a closer look at some of the more competitive areas on the roster. We’ll map out the scenario and then offer our opinions on how the competition might play out. But, more importantly, we’ll open up debate to you, the reader. In the end, you make the call!

Today we break down the battles along the defensive line, competition that includes both the starting job at right defensive end and a number of spots at the bottom of the depth chart.

On the roster: Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren, Gerard Warren, Mike Wright, Damione Lewis, Myron Pryor, Ron Brace, Darryl Richard, Brandon Deaderick, Kade Weston, Adrian Grady, Kyle Love

Why the competition?:
Though the Patriots can no longer roll out the no-questions-asked, first-round defensive front of Warren, Wilfork and Richard Seymour, the New England defensive line remains a potential strength of the team.

The biggest question, though, is who can step up and fill Seymour’s vacated right defensive end spot. Two potential answers are actually fellow first-round draft classmates of Seymour’s from 2001 – free agent additions Gerard Warren and Lewis. Both are solid if unspectacular pros. The former has essentially been a full-time starter in his previous NFL stops in Cleveland, Denver and Oakland. The latter is a solid locker room presence and at least a capable on-field contributor. Both would seem to be more suitable every-down options than the now-departed Jarvis Green.

Gerard took the bulk of the reps at right defensive end this spring next to Wilfork, so it at least appears he’ll have the first chance at winning the starting job. Interestingly, if Lewis isn’t in the mix as a starter the veteran former Panther and Ram could be in a battle for his roster life. After the starting jobs are handed out, with Ty Warren and newly-rich nose tackle Wilfork locks for two of the spots, Wright is the most established veteran. His versatility is his strength, and while he may not be an NFL starter he’s a great luxury as a backup, sub player and special teams contributor.

Maybe the most heated battles along the defensive line will be for the backup jobs and final spots on the roster. Bill Belichick generally keeps seven or eight guys on the line. That means if Warren, Wilfork, Warren and Wright (No wonder Seymour got traded! Maybe he would have stuck around if his name had been Weymour!) are roster locks then the other guys are battling for three or four jobs.

Pryor would seem to have the edge among the second-year players, with the sixth rounder having seen more action than the 2009 second-round pick Brace and the practice squader Richard. Though Pryor did little to standout as a rookie in terms of making plays, he impressed enough to get significant reps. Brace, for what it’s worth, has spoken openly this spring about what he learned as a little-used rookie and what’s expected of him moving forward.

The rookie class brings a couple seventh-round picks in Deaderick and Weston. Both have the size and supposed athleticism for the 3-4, but the former may have the advantage early on coming from Nick Saban’s Alabama defense that has some similarities to what the Patriots do.

As has been the case for virtually the entirety of Wilfork’s time in New England, finding a true backup nose tackle is always a big part of the competition for defensive line roster spots. Although, no one has really emerged in that role over the years.

Will Gerard Warren bring some consistency to the starting job at right defensive end? Could we see Wilfork, as was the case on occasion out of necessity last season, play some end? Which of the young players has the most upside? Can Brace bounce back from a tough campaign and make that Year 2 jump that so many people talk about? Can the defensive line, as a whole, be good enough to take some of the pressure off the young linebacking corps?

Andy Hart says…
It looks like Gerard Warren will get the nod at RDE. He’s a solid vet and I think he’ll be an upgrade over Green and the rest from last fall. That WWW line is a solid starting unit. Brace has talked the talk this spring, but now he must prove it. I have my doubts. Beyond Wright, there’s not a lot to count on with the backups. WWW must stay healthy, in my eyes, or it could be a long year up front. Wilfork is as important as any player on the team not named Brady.

Erik Scalavino says…
Based on spring practice results, I’m expecting newcomer Gerard Warren to have the inside track to start at right defensive end alongside Wilfork and Ty Warren, with Wright a virtual lock as the proven, versatile backup. The real battle will be for the remaining reserve spots. Lewis most likely makes it, leaving Brace and Pryor as the frontrunners for the final two jobs, in all likelihood. At least one will probably not make the cut, meaning there’s an opening for Richard or one of the rookie/first-year players. Brace got a lot of reps in the spring, meaning the coaches are giving him every chance to succeed, but I wouldn’t feel confident betting on him.

Paul Perillo (yes, he’s finally back from vacation!) says…
The Patriots are better situated to fill the Richard Seymour void with veterans Gerard Warren and Damione Lewis, which should help. Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren give the team a solid starting group, particularly against the run, and Mike Wright does a nice job getting after the passer in subpackages. It would be a nice bonus if one of the many youngsters develops and contributes in 2010, otherwise this is a thin group.
Now that you’ve read the predictions from the PFW boys, give us your thoughts on the competition on the defensive line with a comment below!



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16 Comments to “From the Hart: Role call! — DL”

  1. Scott in Iowa Says:

    Warren, Wilfork, and Warren start, Wright and Pryor as backups and subpackages players, Brace as a backup nose, and Deaderick sticks as a developmental guy, totaling 7 DL on the roster. Lewis is cut.

  2. bryce Says:

    Again-To many ifs with rookies and the vets actually contributing is another question mark.The D line scares nobody in the league….

  3. Billy Hud from Revere, MA Says:

    Wilfork is obviously the stud of the line and the anchor. T. Warren, in my opinion, has been slipping a little bit the last few years. He doesn’t seem to make nearly the impact plays that he did a few years back but, that being said, he’s still clearly the 2nd best lineman. G. Warren seems like a capable and reliable starter. I like Wright better in subpackages. He seems more effective when used as a specialist of sorts. Pryor seemed to have the confidence of BB and should be a good backup. Can Brace even play end?? I thought he was a nose which would make him nothing more than a back-up, if he even shows he can make the team. I don’t know much about Lewis. From what I hear, I suppose his chances of making the team are better than Richard, who I think will only make the squad if the 2 rookies tank. All in all, I still believe the D-line is one of the team’s strengths, especially if Ty can up his game a little bit.

  4. Jessi Says:

    If the vets can stay healthy, it’s a strong group. But considering the position they play, I doubt all the starters make it through all 16 games. It’s odd, the Patriots stockpile and groom offensive lineman like nobody else but they haven’t done that to the same degree with the D-Line. Guess we’ll see if that comes back to bite them in the ass.

  5. John in Dallas Says:

    I think Scott in Iowa is correct in terms of projections. I think the WWW combo sticks as day 1 starters. Wright and Pryor as backups, Brace backing up VW in the 3-4, maybe coming in as a DT in the heavy formation. Lewis the long shot. Deaderick has good upside as he was productive at Alabama, and I think he might be a decent depth player at R/LDE.

  6. Steve Says:

    This lines success is really dependent upon the progression of the OLB’s. With solid OLB play we should see less doubles inside giving us more potential for the interior to make plays. What I want to see out of these three is stoutness against the run. I actually have more faith in some of the younger guys (in all positions). I for one think many of them step up this year.

  7. Albert Says:

    Change is good! Wilfork and Wright should be the only locks. Plus I want to see more 4-3!!!!!

  8. Tim Says:

    the two warrens get the nod and oviously wilfork! wright will stick because he can play any of the positions! because of all the depth in other areas of the team i see the pats sticking w/ 6 guys…brace and pryor cap it off! but if bill sees one of the other young guys performing well he could change his mind…i dont think lewis makes the team

  9. J Says:

    I really wish Brace would step it up you guys know any more info on that guy and why hes not getting nasty in the trenches????

  10. todd in ns Says:

    brandon deaderick makes that 53 man roster!!! book it!!!!

  11. TGinNJ Says:

    What are the chances one of the rooks could surprise us and climb into a 2nd tier backup role forcing a player like Brace out? An injury at this position could spell big trouble.
    One of the younger players has got to step it up and get to the next level.

  12. craig wheeler Says:

    I beleave we have the horses to run the 3/4 and 4/3 in Bill I trust.

  13. Bill Says:

    Be prepared for another lame pass rush this season. I predict less sacks than last season.

  14. rob Says:

    Vince is no doubt the anchor. I think Brace makes the team to back Vince up. Warrenx2 on the ends with Wright sticking around for sub packs and to just generally back up the ends if one goes down. I would like to see Pryor come back, he can contribute if given the chance. I think Deaderick will also make the team to help Wright back up the ends and play in sub packs. We’ll see in due time I can’t wait to see Bill’s D this year.

  15. Mike Allard Says:

    I get the impression, from the comments by both Andy and Erik, Ron Brace hasn’t been very impressive.

    It would be tough to dump a second rounder after one season.

    What’s his problem?

  16. MaineMan Says:

    Brace still seems like the only guy on the roster with the heft and the positional experience to potentially be able to hold down the 3-4 nose for an extended period. Weston, maybe. Pryor, Richard and (maybe) Lewis could fill as the second interior guy in sub-packages.

    So, with WWW (& W), plus Brace, that leaves Pryor as the extra interior guy and maybe Deaderick over (10-year vet) Lewis for his developmental potential (if the two are close, performance-wise).

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